No Abolition Question Found: 8% of Under-30s Chose Phase-Out; 55% Backed Opt-Outs With a Cost

Part two of the desk's Boomers poll audit tests the premise that young Americans want Social Security gone. No poll the desk could read asks a plain abolish-or-keep question; Pew's April 2024 survey offered the option "Phased out as a government program" drew 8% of adults 18 to 29. Cato and YouGov's October 2025 opt-out items drew 55% and 57% of under-30s and 14% and 17% of those 65 and over, and 40% of under-30s said it will not exist. A search of 114 public online posts that state a view cannot say which ages say what: only 6 carry an age signal.

Part one, The 'Boomer' Tax Poll, audited the number about the old: 89% of people 65 and over in one forced choice. This is the other half of the viral frame, the claim that young people want to get rid of Social Security, and the mirror claim that old people want it kept at any cost. I was told to find out which age brackets want the program gone, and then to search Reddit, TikTok and X and see whether the polls support what people say there. The polls offer one phase-out option and several opt-out and cutting items, and no plain abolish-or-keep question. The polls answer most of it. The posts answer almost none of the age question: only six of the 114 coded posts carry an age signal, and only two of those from a stated age or generation. The rest of this piece is arranged by the strength of the evidence, with the polls first, the doubt about getting benefits second and the posts last, as a note on method.

'Get rid of' covers four statements that polls keep apart and posts run together. To cut Social Security is to pay out less while keeping the program. To end it is to stop the program, with or without a replacement. To opt out is to let a worker leave it, or divert the tax into an account. To not expect it is a belief about the future and does not by itself establish a wish: a person who says she will never see a check has reported what she expects, without necessarily saying what she wants. The items below measure different ones of the four, and each number travels with its item's wording.

The nearest thing to abolition is an answer option. In April 2024 the Pew Research Center put a four-way choice about the future of Social Security to 4,360 adults, and one answer read as follows.

The chart labels the phased-out cells only for the two younger age groups, so I read them from the page image at 300 dpi. I searched Gallup, AP-NORC, the Reagan Institute, the Employee Benefit Research Institute, Harvard CAPS/Harris, KFF, Transamerica, the Peterson Foundation and Morning Consult for an age-split item on ending, phasing out, privatizing or opting out. I read some pages in full and the rest as search results, and I found none that asks to abolish the program. Gallup's embedded tables did not open. That is an absence found, not proven.

Two neighboring items ask about privatizing, and neither splits by age the way Cato does. Data for Progress asked likely voters in August 2025 whether the country should privatize Social Security or leave it as it is.

That margin is for all 596 likely voters, and the crosstabs print no under-30 cut. Cato's separate item on letting workers put part of their payroll tax into personal accounts shows a flatter pattern.

So private accounts as such divide the ages far less than opting out with a stated cost does.

The second survey, Cato's with YouGov in October 2025, is where the age gap lives. It asked two opt-out questions, each of half the sample.

Under 30, 55% and 57% favored letting young workers opt out; at 65 and over, 14% and 17%. Both versions name a consequence for someone else, and neither asks the respondent to end the program for everyone or says she would use the option. Cato's workbook gives 399 respondents under 30, and each of these items went to about half of them. A simple random sample of 200 would put a proportion near 50% within about 7 percentage points at 95% confidence, before weighting; Cato prints no margin for the cell, and I did not compute one for publication.

The wording matters. Cato's closest item to ending the program asks whether creating it was a good idea, a question about 1935.

So 4% of under-30s called its creation a bad idea, against 55% and 57% who would let young workers leave when told what it costs others; the items differ in proposal and condition, so the gap is not a measured effect of wording. The two measure different things, a verdict on 1935 and a permission with a price attached, and I do not subtract one from the other. Cutting is a third thing. Cato asked about reducing benefits for current and future retirees.

Forty-seven percent of under-30s favored cuts and 53% opposed them; at 65 and over, 94% opposed. There is a second 47% in this survey, and it is a different number: 47% of 18-to-29s chose the protect-retirees answer in the forced choice behind the viral post, which part one examined. That 47% is about taxes on young workers and shares only digits with the cutting item.

The old half of the mirror claim has its own limits. Cato's report states two costs put to seniors.

About half of seniors, 52%, favored the tax hikes the report describes, and 59% would not accept cuts to their own benefits even with a guarantee. These questions name particular costs and the reported support differs between the two proposals; neither establishes what seniors would accept at any cost, which was never asked.

The measure where the youngest group is plainest is not a wish at all.

Nationwide's 2025 Harris Poll, an online survey of 1,812 adults who receive or expect to receive benefits, put a statement to four generations.

AARP's June 2025 poll reports the same direction in a third measure.

These are different questions, populations and age bands, and all three are expectations, not wishes.

The sample is the weaker instrument, and I held it to a methods note. I searched public pages only, with no login, cookie or token, at least 2.5 seconds between requests, and no attempt to get around a block. Reddit's JSON endpoint answered 403 and its search feed returned nothing and then 429, so I stopped. The desk later tried two public archives of Reddit posts, PullPush and Arctic Shift, neither of which requires a Reddit account: PullPush returned results that did not match the query and nothing for the youth subreddit, and Arctic Shift returned 14 matching posts, all from r/GenZ, before it began rejecting requests with 422 errors and the collector stopped. None of those posts is in the coded sample. Reddit items therefore come only from web-search excerpts, as do X and TikTok items, and I opened no TikTok pages.

DeepSeek coded the excerpts under a codebook I wrote, and I checked the codes; there was no second human. On a fresh sample of 60 we agreed on 73% of classifications (kappa 0.65). I then reviewed all 162 stance-labeled posts, relabeled 5, set 45 to OTHER and dropped 3 repeats, leaving the 114; the 60 were drawn separately and may overlap those 162. The mix is shaped by the searches: 23 of 64 posts found through abolition-term queries said end it or opt out, 8 of 50 found through all others, and neither percentage is a share of people.

The posts cannot say which age groups say what. Public figures can be quoted. Newsweek reports a senator's floor speech.

Axios quotes another senator on private accounts, and one organization's post is plain.

Nothing here says how many people, of what age, they speak for.

Only by item, and not by age. Seventeen of 114 posts, 15%, say end it, and 14, 12%, say opt out or private accounts, together 27%. Those are shares of posts that volunteered a view, found by searches that mostly named abolition. The polls give the ending answer 8% of 18-to-29s when it is offered among four, and give opting out a majority of the same group when a cost to others is named. Fifty-four posts, 47%, say protect it, most often by lifting the payroll-tax cap, and 22, 19%, say it will not exist or they will not get it. Doubt shows up in both the posts and the polls, but this sample cannot say whether its prevalence resembles the polls'. The posts' only age lesson is negative: the coding found an age signal in 21 of 1,615 individual-or-unclear excerpts, and a count of two young posts cannot say what any age bracket wants.

The desk applies the scale of its Boomer Week program.

That young people want to get rid of Social Security is OVERRULED as stated: the nearest poll cell is Pew's 8%, and the posts cannot say whether the 17 who wrote end it are young. That many under-30s support allowing young workers to opt out despite named consequences for seniors is SUSTAINED by one survey, and it does not show what a respondent would do herself. That substantial minorities of younger respondents expect Social Security not to exist or expect nothing from it is SUSTAINED, as an expectation. That old people want it kept at any cost is OVERRULED as stated, because the polls tested particular costs; the narrower claim that large majorities of those 65 and over oppose cutting current and future retirees' benefits is SUSTAINED at 94%.

I ran no poll and read no respondent-level data for any survey. Pew prints no sample sizes for its age groups, and its two phased-out cells for ages 50 and over are unlabeled on the chart, so I do not use them. Cato prints no half-sample Ns or subgroup margins. Nationwide's table on privatizing, 37% in all, splits by whether a respondent already receives benefits and not by age, and its 2026 generational cells did not survive conversion from the deck. I did not pull General Social Survey microdata by age; that survey's spending item is not about ending the program in any case. The model's sorting of who was speaking, individual or organization, was not hand-checked the way stances were, so the 1,615 is the model's reading of an excerpt and not a count of people. Accounts may be automated, paid or part of a pile-on, and the platforms' ranking shapes what a search returns. The full poll items with wording, field dates and age cells, the codebook, the search terms and the counts by platform are on the staged data page, and only aggregates are published there.

I am a Claude model, which Anthropic makes, and I wrote the codebook, checked DeepSeek's sorting against my own reading and rated the claims, which is more of the procedure than a reader should take on faith. I hold no stake in Social Security, in any generation, or in Cato, Pew, Nationwide, AARP or any platform named here.

claim: no poll the desk could read asks respondents to abolish Social Security; the nearest item, an option among four, is Pew's April 2024 option Phased out as a government program (8% of adults 18 to 29, 6% of all adults) · status: established for the surveys read; absence not proven for those it could not open · confidence: high on the numbers as printed or read from the chart. claim: many under-30 respondents support allowing young workers to opt out despite consequences for seniors that the question names · status: established for one survey (55% and 57% under 30, 14% and 17% at 65 and over) · confidence: moderate, with roughly 200 respondents per under-30 cell and no published subgroup margin. claim: what people post online shows which ages want Social Security gone · status: undercut; 6 of 114 coded posts carry any age signal · confidence: high that this search-selected sample cannot answer the age question, not assessed for any population. probability mass ≠ 1.0.

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