Social Security online versus the polls: the poll items, the codebook, the counts and the limits
Companion to the editorial, part two of the desk’s Boomers poll audit, and the full record; the editorial’s figure carries the poll cells and this page carries the stance counts by platform, query type and age signal. Poll numbers are from the surveys named; the online counts, the codebook and the hand checks are the desk’s own and are labelled as such. Everything here was collected on 11 October 2026 (Pacific; source timestamps are UTC).
The poll items, with wording, field dates and ages
Pew Research Center, American Trends Panel Wave 146
Fielded April 8 to 14, 2024; online panel; full sample 8,709 adults, margin of sampling error plus or minus 1.5 points; this item was asked of Form 2 only (N=4,360). Item SOCSEC_FUT: “Thinking about the long term future of Social Security, do you think …” Answers: some reductions in benefits for future retirees need to be considered (19% of adults: phased out as a government program 6%, maintained at a reduced level 13%) or Social Security benefits should not be reduced in any way (79%: cover more people with greater benefits 40%, be kept about as it is 38%). Age cells were read by the desk from the report chart; the two phased-out cells marked ~ are not labeled on the chart and are derived by subtraction. Pew prints no Ns for the age groups.
| Answer | 18-29 | 30-49 | 50-64 | 65+ |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Phased out as a government program | 8% | 9% | ~3% | ~2% |
| Maintained at a reduced level | 16% | 13% | 11% | 15% |
| Net: some reductions need to be considered | 24% | 22% | 14% | 17% |
| Be kept about as it is | 21% | 30% | 46% | 55% |
| Cover more people, with greater benefits | 51% | 45% | 39% | 26% |
| Net: should not be reduced in any way | 73% | 76% | 85% | 82% |
Cato Institute / YouGov, December 2025 Social Security National Survey
Fielded October 9 to 14, 2025; YouGov interviewed 2,402 respondents matched down to 2,000; margin of error plus or minus 2.59 points for the full sample only. Unweighted Ns by age as printed in the crosstab workbook: 18-29 N=399, 30-44 N=521, 45-54 N=266, 55-64 N=361, 65+ N=452. Items marked half-sample (Q38a, Q38b, Q38g, Q46, Q47) were asked of half the respondents; the half-sample Ns are not printed. All cells below were extracted programmatically from the converted crosstab workbook and Q35 was checked against the age figures in Cato’s report text. Q35, the forced choice behind the viral boomers-and-taxes post, is covered in the desk’s earlier editorial.
| Item | What it measures (desk label) | All | 18-29 | 30-44 | 45-54 | 55-64 | 65+ |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Q1 | Favorable view of Social Security | 83% | 83% | 81% | 80% | 78% | 91% |
| Q1 | Unfavorable view of Social Security | 17% | 17% | 19% | 20% | 22% | 9% |
| Q5 | Creation of Social Security was a bad idea | 5% | 4% | 8% | 6% | 6% | 3% |
| Q22 | Social Security will exist when I retire: yes | 34% | 34% | 25% | 28% | 42% | 74% |
| Q22 | Social Security will exist when I retire: no | 30% | 40% | 37% | 27% | 14% | 5% |
| Q22 | Social Security will exist when I retire: not sure | 36% | 26% | 38% | 45% | 44% | 21% |
| Q27 | US spends too much on Social Security | 11% | 13% | 12% | 12% | 11% | 9% |
| Q27 | US spends too little on Social Security | 66% | 57% | 59% | 67% | 74% | 74% |
| Q28 | Social Security benefits are too high | 5% | 10% | 6% | 4% | 2% | 2% |
| Q35 | Protect retiree benefits even if higher taxes on younger workers | 69% | 47% | 57% | 74% | 84% | 89% |
| Q35 | Protect younger workers from higher taxes even if reducing retiree benefits | 31% | 53% | 43% | 26% | 16% | 11% |
| Q36 | Willing to reduce own benefits if guaranteed to get back at least what paid in plus growth | 35% | 53% | 42% | 39% | 24% | 17% |
| Q37 | Prefer Congress cut benefits (vs raise taxes or borrow) | 14% | 25% | 17% | 16% | 9% | 5% |
| Q38a | Favor reducing benefits for current and future retirees | 23% | 47% | 28% | 24% | 10% | 6% |
| Q38a | Oppose reducing benefits for current and future retirees | 77% | 53% | 72% | 76% | 90% | 94% |
| Q38b | Favor reducing benefits for only future retirees | 33% | 53% | 27% | 28% | 24% | 36% |
| Q38g | Favor paying benefits only to seniors in financial need | 33% | 50% | 36% | 27% | 33% | 17% |
| Q45 | Support letting workers put part of their Social Security taxes into personal investment accounts | 60% | 63% | 58% | 58% | 60% | 58% |
| Q46 | Favor letting young workers opt out of Social Security taxes if benefits for current seniors would be reduced | 31% | 55% | 35% | 33% | 20% | 14% |
| Q47 | Favor letting young workers opt out of Social Security taxes if benefits went only to seniors in financial need | 35% | 57% | 41% | 35% | 26% | 17% |
| Q52 | Calling Social Security a Ponzi scheme is a fair characterization | 33% | 38% | 37% | 37% | 30% | 25% |
The 47% under 30 for Q38a (favor reducing benefits for current and future retirees) and the 47% under 30 for Q35 (protect retiree benefits, even if higher taxes on younger workers) are different items.
Data for Progress, Polling on Privatizing Social Security
Fielded August 1 to 3, 2025; 596 U.S. likely voters; web panel; margin of error plus or minus 4 points for the full sample, larger for subgroups. Q1: “Do you think the U.S. should privatize Social Security or leave it as it is?” Topline: leave 72%, privatize 20%, don’t know 8%. Under 45 (weighted N 205): leave 72%, privatize 23%, don’t know 5%. 45 and over (weighted N 391): leave 72%, privatize 18%, don’t know 10%. No under-30 cut is printed.
Nationwide Retirement Institute / The Harris Poll, 2025 Social Security Survey
Fielded June 2 to July 10, 2025; online; 1,812 adults who currently receive or expect to receive Social Security; Gen Z (18-28) n=301, Millennials (29-44) n=504, Gen X (45-60) n=505, Boomers+ (61+) n=502. Agreement that “I will not get a dime of the Social Security benefits I have earned”: Gen Z 38%, Millennials 34%, Gen X 26%, Boomers+ 9%, adults 60-65 14%, all 22%. Support for “Privatize the program” among measures to ensure long-term stability: 37% in all (26% somewhat, 11% strongly), 30% among current recipients, 41% among those who expect to receive it; the table splits by receipt, not by age. A 2026 wave (May 11 to June 4, 2026, n=1,823) exists; the desk could read its total (26% agree they will not get a dime) but not its generational cells from the converted deck.
AARP, June 18 to 23, 2025
3,599 adults 18 and older, online and by telephone. 96% consider Social Security important; confidence in the program’s future 36% overall, 25% among ages 18-49 and 48% among ages 50 and older.
General Social Survey (NORC)
The GSS item on spending on Social Security (too little, about the right amount, too much) is not about ending the program. The desk read a peer-reviewed analysis of the 1984 to 2022 waves (abstract and results paragraph only): older adults 65 and over are less likely than adults 18-64 to support more spending, and a weighted, adjusted estimate of more-spending support is 49.5% in 1984 and 57.9% in 2022 for the total sample. The desk did not pull GSS microdata by age. For comparison, Cato’s own spending item (Q27) puts “too much” at 13%, 12%, 12%, 11%, 9% from the youngest age group to the oldest.
Searched, nothing found on ending
Gallup, AP-NORC, the Reagan Institute, the Employee Benefit Research Institute, Harvard CAPS/Harris, KFF, Transamerica, the Peterson Foundation, Morning Consult and Napolitan News Service (June 1-2, 2026 toplines, read in full; items on receiving promised benefits, importance of protecting benefits, and delaying claims). The desk found no item in any of them that asks respondents to abolish Social Security, and read several only as search results. Gallup’s Social Security trend page lists tables on investing Social Security taxes and on the Bush approach; the embedded tables did not open. An absence found is not an absence proven.
The online sample
Public pages only. No logins, cookies, tokens or accounts. Requests at least 2.5 seconds apart. No attempt to get around a block. X and TikTok text is the excerpt a public web search returned (Firecrawl search restricted to x.com, twitter.com and tiktok.com, past-year filter); TikTok pages were not opened and no video downloader was run. Reddit’s JSON listing endpoint answered HTTP 403 and was stopped; the public search RSS feed answered three requests with no entries and then HTTP 429 and was stopped; a second pass at a ten-second gap drew HTTP 429 on its second request and was stopped. Reddit’s own listings contributed no items; Reddit items come only from public web search results restricted to reddit.com.
Search terms
- Abolition terms: abolish social security; get rid of social security; end social security; opt out of social security; privatize social security; I won't get social security; social security ponzi scheme; social security won't exist; phase out social security; social security should be optional; social security is a scam; scrap social security; social security should be voluntary; replace social security with 401k; I want my money back social security; social security is theft; social security will be gone; never see social security
- Neutral terms: social security gen z; social security boomers; social security young people; keep social security; protect social security; cut social security; social security zoomers; social security millennials; social security reform; social security insolvent 2032; social security retirement age; boomers social security kids; gen z social security won't be there
- Protect-leaning terms: don't touch social security; hands off social security; expand social security; social security is earned; save social security
- Age-phrased terms (18): for example I'm 22 and I don't expect social security; I'm 25 years old opt out of social security; I'm 68 and social security cuts; as a retiree my social security; I'm a boomer and I paid into social security; I'm 35 and social security
- Topic terms (12): 401k instead of social security; voluntary social security; let me keep my payroll tax instead of social security; social security tax should be optional; social security robbed my paycheck; raise the retirement age social security; means test social security; social security cap scrap the cap; social security is a pyramid scheme; social security is forced savings; young workers subsidize boomers social security; social security trust fund empty 2032
- Community terms (24 Reddit communities, three phrasings each): r/Zoomers, r/GenZ, r/millennials, r/Libertarian, r/personalfinance, r/Conservative, r/Bogleheads, r/Economics, r/AgingParents, r/Retirement, r/BoomersBeingFools, r/Anarcho_Capitalism, r/financialindependence, r/politics, r/antiwork, r/Fire, r/Ask_Politics, r/AskOldPeople, r/over60, r/AskConservatives, r/neoliberal, r/Socialism, r/democrats, r/teenagers
Codebook
- voice: individual, public figure or organization, news or official, unclear. Only individual and unclear voices enter the analytic sample.
- on topic: the text itself explicitly states the author's own view on whether Social Security should exist, be ended, be opted out of, be privatized, be cut, be reformed or be protected, expanded or funded, or explicitly says it will not exist or the author will not get it.
- ABOLISH_END: wants it ended, abolished, eliminated, scrapped or phased out.
- OPT_OUT_PRIVATIZE: wants to opt out, make it voluntary, or replace or partly replace it with private or individual accounts, without saying end it entirely.
- CUT_REFORM: wants benefit cuts, a higher retirement age, means-testing or other narrowing, while keeping the program.
- PROTECT: wants it kept, expanded or funded to preserve benefits (including lifting the payroll-tax cap), or opposes cuts or privatization.
- FATALIST: says it will not exist, is going broke, or the author will not get it, with no policy preference stated.
- OTHER: anything else, including reported or quoted views, questions, jokes, predictions that it will still exist, and calling it a Ponzi scheme, scam or theft without saying what should be done.
- Priority: a stated policy preference beats fatalism.
- Age signal: only a self-stated age or generation in the text, or an age-defined community (r/Zoomers, r/GenZ, r/millennials, r/GenX, r/Retirement). Never inferred from tone, topic or style.
Counts
2,453 distinct public items surfaced (X 843, TikTok 766, Reddit 844). Model-judged voice: individual 748, unclear 867, public figure or organization 405, news or official 433. Items from individual or unclear voices: 1,615. Posts that state a view, counted once each after the evidence check and the desk’s adjudication: 114 (96 individual voice, 18 unclear). Of the 1,615, 21 (1.3%) state an age or generation. Where a date could be recovered, the 44 dated posts run from 4 December 2025 to 11 October 2026; the 70 undated posts are Reddit excerpts returned under a past-year filter.
| Row | Posts | End it | Opt out / private accounts | Cut / reform | Protect / expand / fund | Will not exist, no stance |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| All posts that state a view | 114 | 17 | 14 | 7 | 54 | 22 |
| X | 29 | 8 | 4 | 1 | 12 | 4 |
| TikTok | 15 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 12 | 2 |
| 70 | 8 | 10 | 6 | 30 | 16 | |
| Found by abolition-term searches | 64 | 11 | 12 | 4 | 26 | 11 |
| Found by all other searches | 50 | 6 | 2 | 3 | 28 | 11 |
| Any age signal | 6 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 4 |
| No age signal | 108 | 16 | 14 | 7 | 53 | 18 |
| Under-30 or Gen Z signal | 2 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 |
| Millennial or Gen X signal | 4 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 3 |
| Age 55 and over signal | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
The six posts with any age signal: two from a stated age or generation, four from an age-defined community. The desk inferred no age from style, topic or tone.
Coding and hand checks
Coder: DeepSeek (deepseek-chat) through the desk’s LiteLLM gateway, three prompt versions; the third required an evidence quote copied from the post and downgraded any stance whose quote was not found. Hand checks were done by the desk’s model (Claude), not by a second person. Three blind samples of 60 items. Version 1: stance agreement 19 of 48 items the model called on-topic (40%); on-topic agreement 46 of 60. Version 2: on-topic agreement 54 of 60; six-way agreement 41 of 60 (68%). Version 3 on a fresh sample: six-way agreement 44 of 60 (73%, Cohen’s kappa 0.65), on-topic agreement 52 of 60; of the 40 items the model gave a stance, the desk agreed on 25; of the 28 the desk gave a stance, the model matched 25. Version 3 on the two earlier samples: 53 of 60 and 48 of 60. Then the desk read each of the 162 individual-or-unclear posts to which the version-3 model gave a stance: 112 kept (69%), 5 relabeled, 45 set to OTHER; three of the remaining 117 repeated text already counted, leaving 114. Token counts across the three versions: about 5.0 million input and 0.38 million output; about $1.5 at list price; the gateway counter for the seat reads $0.62 for the week; hard cap $2.
Files on the DGX under ~/jobs/ss_sentiment: items_coded.csv (sha256 a6b587378ba22374c55e22169b04cb6185e2863b3eef2af863b78cfc755e2505), codebook.md (sha256 c9459a48b25238fe40f5baf1f457bd92f6d08613488f4f67108fa7766bb78cab), SHA256SUMS for the raw, coded and adjudicated files.
Figure data
The two figures in the editorial draw only on the tables above: the poll small multiples use the Pew, Cato, Data for Progress and Nationwide cells; the stance figure uses the counts table.
Links
- Pew Research Center topline (April 2024)
- Pew Research Center report
- Pew methodology
- Cato Institute report
- Cato topline
- Cato crosstab workbook
- Data for Progress crosstabs
- Nationwide 2025 deck
- Nationwide 2026 release
- AARP press release (July 2025)
- GSS analysis (PMC)
- Axios, Cruz
- Newsweek, Tuberville
- Mises Institute, Sabrin
- Libertarian Party platform
- John Birch Society post on X
- The desk, The Boomer Tax Poll
- The desk, Boomer Week
What the desk could not verify or reach
- Reddit's own listings: blocked (403, then 429); none used.
- TikTok and X pages and comment threads were not opened; only search excerpts were read.
- Ages: almost none are stated; none were inferred.
- Gallup's embedded privatization tables did not open.
- No GSS microdata by age was pulled.
- Pew prints no Ns for its age groups; two Pew cells are derived by subtraction.
- Cato prints no half-sample Ns or subgroup margins; none were computed for publication.
- Nationwide's 2026 generational cells could not be read from the converted deck.
- AARP's August 2026 poll page was fetched but its item wording and methodology were not retrievable.
- There was no second human coder; the check of DeepSeek's codes was done by the desk's model.